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Seth Finkelstein's avatar

I'm trying to come up with a joke about the above comments argument. This is humor! (or at least, an attempt at it). Something *like* - not final form - this:

"ACLU is principled liberals who are willing to defend the free-speech rights of [Nazis|Fascists|far-right|right-wingers|conservatives]"

"FIRE is principled [Nazis|Fascists|far-right|right-wingers|conservatives] who are willing to defend the free-speech rights of liberals"

The problem is that the joke needs the same word in both slots to work, for parallelism. But something like "principled [Nazis]" is way too harsh. While "free-speech rights of [conservatives]" doesn't pack the necessary punch. I can't come up with the correct word with enough bite, but not insulting. Maybe there's a way to use "Nazi" but make it clear the second use is meant as a parody of the tendency to use it as a slur? That seems difficult, as parody doesn't work well on the Internet.

Anyway, consider this "workshopping", I do think there's a good joke somewhere in there.

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Greg Lukianoff's avatar

You’re making up stuff, Ryan. Your unhealthy obsession with me has led you to lie a lot.

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Robert Arvanitis's avatar

Incorrect. You are a troll. Begone.

[insert here] delenda est's avatar

He's right though. For example, there's a reason Trump isn't locking up people who insult him or advocate for trans rights, and it is not because he doesn't want to.

Free speech is right-wing if you think that reality leans right (in relation to wokeism it does! But in relation to , say, immigration, it leans left!).

If you are agnostic, free speech is the bedrock upon which left and right, not to mention democracy itself, can coexist.

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[insert here] delenda est's avatar

Wait, which free speech movement embraced Trump?? Did FIRE ever endorse or support Trump (apart from guilt by association!)?

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Robert Arvanitis's avatar

Accusing President Trump of murder means we cannot consider you a rational interlocutor. Post what you will, but you'll change no serious readers.

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